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MtnTopRebel

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Hydro Pelton Wheel thanks to Subaru
« on: April 21, 2005, 03:25:20 AM »
My son after cutting open various (a bunch) auto torque converters found that the Subaru (early 80's) works well, and has used them for years...
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healerenergy

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Re: Hydro Pelton Wheel thanks to Subaru
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2005, 12:21:08 AM »
If you have pictures of the construction processes and the finished piece it would be great. I used to build racing torque converters in a shop in maryland. The shelled out pumps make good bells to. I have two 13" towtruck pumps that sound great.
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drdongle

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Re: Hydro Pelton Wheel thanks to Subaru
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2005, 05:03:45 AM »
Yes more info would be most helpfull
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Re: Hydro Pelton Wheel thanks to Subaru
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2005, 08:13:53 AM »
MtnTopRebel dropped into IRC last night, pelton pictures & explanation to follow in a few days all things willing...


teaser --- "it's an older subaru tourqe convertor fed with four jets in a chamber fabricated from a 10-inch PVC end cap coupled to a high-output alternator."


MTR; we'ins here be a picture loving crowd :)

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robert777

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Re: Hydro Pelton Wheel thanks to Subaru
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2005, 01:40:54 PM »
OK here are the pix...  The shot with the plastic cap,(photo 1) is a high output Ford alternator.  It has been running for about 6 years.  the Subaru rotor (photo 4)is held in place with flat washers welded together to make the adapter plate between the rotor and alternator shaft.  the alternator is mounted in a 8" plastic pipe cap and set on a 5 gal bucket (photo 2) ( with a large hole on the bottom side so the water clears the head quickly.  Presently only one jet is being used.. this cap has had 3 nozzles.  the other head, is being built using a large stainless salad bowl (photo 5), the shape should be more effecient.  the plumbing layout (photo 3)is being set up for four jets, and by using the sweep fitting, there should be little loss to elbows.  The system has 100 ft drop, 50 lbs static.  Using 2 inch line.

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healerenergy

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Re: Hydro Pelton Wheel thanks to Subaru
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2005, 11:24:32 PM »
Great pictures is that the stator from the torque converters as the wheel.
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drdongle

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Re: Hydro Pelton Wheel thanks to Subaru
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2005, 05:15:59 AM »
I'm wondering if other torque converters would yield similar impellers?

From what I can see they don't appear to be shaped like pelton or turgo wheels. I wonder what their efficiency is compared to "traditional" impellers.
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Re: Hydro Pelton Wheel thanks to Subaru
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2005, 09:28:53 AM »
I am not shure what you mean by stator I know it as the inpeler.

 
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Re: Hydro Pelton Wheel thanks to Subaru
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2005, 09:41:03 AM »
The subaru is the only one that i found that has a removable outer ring which i found  caused a lot of drag I check with people that make the haris  with the flow and head I have they could get 20 amps out of thiers I have got 15 max but I think the salid bowl will up that to 17 or 18 but when i set up the full loup pipe flowe I hope to cause a vortex and push it over 20 amps but I have not had time to play with lately.
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Re: Hydro Pelton Wheel thanks to Subaru
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2005, 08:15:28 PM »
The impeller is the the stator. I used to build them so the terms we used may vary a bit. is the impeller a lockup or racheting type and have you thought about putting the impeller in a pipe just over the size with the ring on it might be a thought.
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