Bees and Berz .... personalized solar energy
By wdyasq, Section Diaries Posted on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 05:01:24 AM MST
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Can a  bee beat Betz? http://www.gizmag.com/xbee-wind-turbine-green-wavelength/13279/ And - new term for 'off-grid'? http://www.gizmag.com/personal-solar-energy/13276/ Until I see it or data is verified, I still think it is excretion of bovine. Ron

Bees and Berz .... personalized solar energy | 9 comments (9 topical)

Re: Bees and Berz .... personalized solar energy (3.00 / 0) (#1) by zap on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 07:13:42 AM MST

The video of the "bee" looks like a lawsuit waiting to happen! zap

Re: Bees and Berz .... personalized solar energy (3.00 / 0) (#2) by SparWeb on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 07:34:44 AM MST

What's the demo machine supposed to prove (in the video)?  It's sitting on the sidewalk facing a building.  He's probably "motoring" the generator to flap the wings.  It is possible to consume more than 59% of the flowing wind energy to produce motion.  In fact it is possible to consume a nearly infinite amount of energy and produce no mechanical work at all.  It's called heat. Steven Fahey

Re: Bees and Berz .... personalized solar energy (3.00 / 0) (#3) by gotwind2 on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 02:35:03 PM MST

I Saw that feature myself this morning Ron, I thought it was April fools day - you get that day there? Madness.. Ben. www.gotwind.org [ Parent ]

Re: Bees and Berz .... personalized solar energy (3.00 / 0) (#7) by Ungrounded Lightning Rod on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 12:57:03 PM MST

Unfortunately we Do have April Fools Day. IMHO it causes major disruptions.  (Slashdot.org, for instance, is completely unusable on April first, due to the editors' choice to include primarily "joke" articles.) I often thought, back during the Cold War, if the Russians had chosen to commit a first strike on April 1 they could have conquered, or at least wiped out, the West.  B-( [ Parent ]

Re: Bees and Berz .... personalized solar energy (3.00 / 0) (#8) by DamonHD on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 01:47:39 PM MST

I thought that they had...  B^> Rgds Damon [ Parent ]

Re: Bees and Berz .... personalized solar energy (3.00 / 0) (#9) by Ungrounded Lightning Rod on Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 01:39:21 PM MST

They're getting there.  But it's still in progress. [ Parent ]

Re: Bees and Berz .... personalized solar energy (3.00 / 0) (#4) by fabricator on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 04:16:07 PM MST

The solar thing is moot at this point, until the price per watt of panels comes way down the new storage technology is meaningless. I aint skeered a nuthin......Oh S%*T! What was that?!!!

Re: Bees and Berz .... personalized solar energy (3.00 / 0) (#5) by Ungrounded Lightning Rod on Thu Nov 05, 2009 at 08:11:06 PM MST

I didn't see any claim in TFA that the machine might beat Betz. In fact the article explicitly cited the Betz limit (giving the 59.3% approximation) and talked about the new turbine trying to come closer to it than stuff currently on the market (which it characterized as running about 30% efficient). Also the inventor posted a comment and said they don't make any claims at all and are just trying to get it to work.

Re: Bees and Berz .... personalized solar energy (3.00 / 0) (#6) by adaml on Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 06:40:55 AM MST

Or is this the latest thing???? http://www.greentechgazette.com/index.php/photovoltaics/cool-earth-solar-balloons-hot-for-electrical -generation/

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